Search Results: "Eric Dorland"

3 October 2006

MJ Ray: "Firefox Not Really Free?"

"Debian developer Eric Dorland confirmed to internetnews.com that Debian will re-name Firefox and that the re-naming process could be completed as soon as next week." (in Firefox Not Really Free? [Sean Michael Kerner], tip to /Jonas) Another hat-tip to /Jonas for this thought-provoking suggestion: are MozCorp deliberately trying to mimic X-Oz's role in the XFree86 farce?

22 September 2006

Eric Dorland: Finally something fun to vote for

With all the GR fever going on right now, I thought I would join the fray. I've upgraded to a paid LJ account so I could post a poll. So I've picked what I think are the best suggestions for Firefox's new name from my previous blog entry. Please pick your favorite:

View Poll: #827142


Vote early, vote often!

Note: I reserve the right to pass the results through my Diebold voting machine to "correct" the outcome if necessary.

20 September 2006

Andree Leidenfrost: Bending the DFSG a little...

...is what Mike Connor appears to be suggesting here. As far as I can tell, this has already happened - the way I interpret #8 of the DFSG, it is not just about Debian and derivatives but absolutely everyone including Osama Bin Laden and George Walker Bush and even John Howard. ;-)

Seriously, though, I perfectly understand that Mozilla needs to protect its brand and they certainly have every right to do so. And we have every right to change the name and modify the code without asking anyone for approval. A right that we will have to exercise by the looks of it. How about 'freefox' (probably too close) or the 'browser otherwise known as firefox', short 'bokaf' (anyone?).

I believe that Mozilla is doing the free software movement a disservice when they are as hard-nosed about their brand as it appears they are. They certainly need to put mechanisms in place to protect themselves from the Dr. Evils of the world. Debian most definitely does not belong into this category (neither do Redhat nor Suse nor any other Linux distribution I can think of). So why not just let sleeping dogs lie?

Eric Dorland and Steve Langasek are my heroes for remaining calm and on topic in the discussion.

Bernhard R. Link: Trademarks

If everyone thought that accepting bogus obligations just to be allowed to name something by it&aposs name, take a look at Eric Dorland&aposs blog or directly into the new problems.

My vote for this: Call it firesomething or mffbrowser or some other free name once and forall. With some luck somebody will then also write a nice patch to have a common Debian ca-certificate handling. (I&aposm sick of having to do anything twice, especially if it includes writing mozilla extensions adding a ca-certificate every time a user loads its config as I&aposm ignorant in all this stuff to know any better way). Having things as similar as possible in different environments is a nice goal, but having working solutions and the right to implement working solutions is much more important...

Eric Dorland: Boy, am I sick of renaming this thing

Phoenix, that was a cool name. Damn you PhoenixBIOS. Firebird was good, and who needs another database anyway? Mozilla Firefox is a cute name, with a cute logo. A logo we can't use. Oh wait, we can't use the name either?

So the Mozilla Corporation has asked us to stop using the name "Firefox" in our version of Firefox, unless we use the fox on a globe logo. We can't use the logo because its copyright license is not free. Even if somehow we could do this, they want to vet every patch we apply before we release a package called Firefox containing it.

This puts us in a very difficult position. If there is no traction on the Mozilla side and Debian stands firm on the freeness of non-program files, I don't really see anyway around having to rename Firefox. So what should this new name be? Preferably something clever, nice sounding and not trademarked. I'd like it to be something other distributions can use if they're so inclined. And while Iceweasel is cute, and I enjoy the parody, I'm not sure it has enough sex appeal. Suggestions welcome.

3 September 2006

Eric Dorland: mozilla-firefox_1.0.4-2sarge11: Fix for Google Maps Regression

New mozilla-firefox packages to fix JavaScript regressions (#385452 and #385248) that caused 1.0.4-2sarge10 to crash when using Google Maps.

Please test these packages so they can swiftly be added to the security archive.

2 September 2006

Eric Dorland: A Brush with Humanity

So I installed Ubuntu for the very first time a couple of days ago. I was doing for the niece of a coworker, who is 11 years old and French speaking. So I burned a copy of Dapper and booted it up on the old HP computer I was installing onto. The whole Live CD/Install CD approach is a good one, I hope the debian-installer team can adopt a similar approach post-etch.

I was a bit unhappy that there were no LVM options in the partition tool, but since the target user is more of a neophyte I suppose this makes sense. For that perspective the installer is a success, it asked very few questions and in the end presented me with a very nice, working system. I did the install in French and did notice a few buttons that still seemed to be in English and also that after rebooting the boot messages were still in English. I guess that shouldn't be surprising considering that I've never seen a init script that was translated. This should be possible with gettext right? I wonder why I've never heard anyone clamoring for this.

So the final result is nice and surprising responsive on this old machine. It had all the software an average computer user needs: web browser, email, office suite. The interface is pleasingly integrated. None of this is enough to sway me away from Debian, but it does seem like a nicer distro for a non-technically savvy user.

14 August 2006

Eric Dorland: Hiccups

I've been hiccuping all morning. Someone please kill me or suggest a cure.

31 July 2006

Eric Dorland: Fantasia Roundup

I'm a little behind having seen my last film on Monday, but here we go:

15 July 2006

Eric Dorland: The Damage So Far

So I've spent the last 8 days at Fantasia, neglecting friends, family, my health and Debian work. Probably a good time to look back at what I've seen so the memories don't melt away has they have other years. So only 8 movies left to see. So far it's been pretty good.

30 June 2006

Eric Dorland: Asian Delights

Last night I went to Sakura Gardens to celebrate the end of our class. The food was good, I don't think they do the best sushi, but the other food is excellent. I also successfully avoided any karaoke singing.

Also, Fantasia 2006 is starting next week. So I'll soon be spending way to much time sitting in a movie theater. Summer in Montr al is great.

Eric Dorland: Another mozilla-firefox security release, please test!

After my despondant post the other day, Alexander Sack came through again with patches for the Bookmark regression. Please test them! If I don't get any negative feedback I'm sending this on to the security team. Positive feedback is also encouraged, just so I know that people care :)

28 June 2006

Eric Dorland: mozilla-firefox security frustration

With mozilla.org stopping official security support for the 1.0.x branch a mere 6 months after the release of 1.5 is really starting to cause pain. I can understand wanting to move on to the new thing, but ending it so quickly really makes it hard for distributions with long support cycles. Alexander Sack worked very hard backporting most of the fixes into sarge. Unfortunately, it looks like one of the patches breaks submenus in Bookmarks menu.

So what do we do? Announce discontinuation of security support? Give up and ship 1.5 as other distros have done? Many users might welcome the latter, but the the ones who count on the stability of stable might not be so pleased.

20 June 2006

Eric Dorland: mozilla-firefox 1.0.4-2sarge8

Users of sarge, please try these new mozilla-firefox packages, that contains backports of the security fixes from Firefox 1.5.0.4 (with some small exceptions). There are a rather large amount of fixes in there, so please try it and report any breakage.

5 June 2006

Eric Dorland: Belated DebConf Conclusion

I'm terrible at the whole blogging thing, I've been back for two weeks and haven't found the time to summarize my time at DebConf. I had an excellent time. I met a lot of great people and even found a squash partner for the next DebConf. It was really quite unforgettable, so thanks to everyone involved.

Hanging out with [info]sfllaw there, I was exposed to a lot more Ubuntu-esque things that I really had before. Some people there were quite unhappy about Ubuntu. To me, it's just not really that interesting, one because I don't see it as being substantially better or different from Debian and two because it looser stand on freedom. But hey, this is free software, people seem to like it, and I'm glad to see something related to Debian getting money and attention, rather than say RedHat or SUSE. I think a lot of developers would be happier with Ubuntu if it was just easier to ignore.

Then there was that dinner, and the events surrounding it. While I and many others won't miss Ted, I don't think he was treated at all fairly. Being thrown out in the middle of conference when seemly he did nothing wrong there was not very civil. If people could not stand to be around him, they did not have to be around him. He could have just as easily been removed from the project after the conference was over.

Enough griping though. If I came away with anything from the conference, it was a renewed vigor to work on Debian. Now if only my schedule would permit it.

20 May 2006

Eric Dorland: Page Down, how I missed thee

So Johannes (Johannes Berg perhaps?) gets a beverage, even though I figured it some hours before after wading through obscure mailing list posts. So for the record (aka Google), to enable the fn-key on last generation PowerBooks, you need to enable CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT_POWERBOOK in your kernel. It's not enabled by default, but there's already a bug about it, so hopefully it will be fixed next release.

19 May 2006

Eric Dorland: apt-get install mexican-kittens

So a lot has been going on here at DebConf 6. Yesterday we spent a sun soaked day at Xochicalco. It was hot out, but not unbearable, and it was really interesting. Makes me want to see Mel Gibson's Apocalypto, even though I'll bet it will be crap. We also had a delicious late lunch at a local buffet. I think the key to their deliciousness was serving actual Mexican food, rather than the quasi-Western fare at the hotel. We also had the foreign liquor BoF, which had excellent representation from various countries. I want to go to Puerto Rico for Christmas. The night before [info]sfllaw had the genius idea to get some tuna and feed the kittens running around the hotel complex. They fought tooth and claw for every scrap of the tuna, then proceeded to wrestle and play for our amusement. They were still afraid of us, but not so badly, and it was completely adorable. Pictures are up on [info]sfllaw's Flickr stream. Before a small group of us had dinner at a small Argentinian steak house. It was fantastic, and put me a meat coma for the rest of the night. Earlier in the day I attended an interesting talk by Don Amstrong about the GPLv3. He helped clarify some questions I had on the optional components of the license and how to combine them. Very interesting, and it's nice that Debian is represented on committees helping draft the next draft. Tuesday I attended a couple of very interesting talks by Manoj relating to SELinux. He basically confirmed my suspicion that SELinux is really hard, but nonetheless worthwhile. I'll have to pick up O'Reilly's SELinux book and learn more. It looks likely it will be in the base install in some form or another for etch. Monday night's highlight was a discussion between madduck, [info]sfllaw and I. We talked mostly about why people feel unhappy about Ubuntu and maybe some ways of fixing it. Hopefully this DebConf will help bring the two camps together more than before. I've also been killed in Assassins, after only killing my first victim. I also thank the gods that I brought my old Orinocco wireless card, because the Broadcom drivers for my PowerBook isn't happy with the wireless here. I could of sworn that thing was working at some point. The flaky Internet connectivity is frustrating, but I can tell the volunteers are fighting a hard battle against some tough limitations, so thanks for the hard work! PS: If anyone knows a good way to get the Fn-key with Page Up/Down working on a Aluminum PowerBook, a beverage of your choice is yours.

16 May 2006

Eric Dorland: DebConf Fun

So I'm halfway through my 2nd full day here at DebConf 6. The trip over was fairly uneventful. Dorval Airport charges a fairly ridiculous amount for WiFi. Cost me $10 to surf for an hour. Such a ripoff. Meet Jimmy in Newark. A bit of a mad rush from the Mexico City airport to the bus station to catch the last bus to Oaxtepec. Mexico city is big (says Captain Obvious). Arrived at the resort after midnight, and was greeted by a nice gift bag and many developers, including one of my roomies for the week, [info]sfllaw. There are wild cats everywhere on the resort! They're adorable, but a little heartbreaking. There's waterpark here too, need to try to find time for that. The swimming pool closes at 6pm, just around the time I'm most keen for a swim. Yesterday, the conference officially began. [info]sfllaw, I and few others (including important spanish speakers), went into town for breakfast. I had a chorizo echilada, very nice and not sick yet. The talk level was fairly light, and [info]sfllaw went to town again to get some beer, limes and water from town. The deposits on the beer bottles were almost the same as the price of the beer! [info]sfllaw theorized that it was to discourage destroying the bottles. The day caught up with me in the evening and I fell asleep and almost missed dinner. Luckily we made it just in time. The conference food has been fairly good, and I can't argue with the price. The net connection seemed to have problems in the evening, I was feeling a mite anti-social and the previous 24 hours had caught up with me, so I totally crashed around 11. Today was some interesting talks, the most interesting being the Ubuntu Annual Report by Mark Shuttleworth. During the QA, a lot of the same objections seemed to be raised (LaunchPad non-freeness, passing back to Debian. The same soft answers were forthcoming. I mostly have no problem with Ubuntu, and think sometimes we're a bit whiny about them. This is free software, we can't compel anyone to do exactly what we want, nor do they owe us. I'm happy to get what help I do from them.

4 May 2006

Norbert Tretkowski: Latest firefox update

I just uploaded firefox 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-0bpo1 to backports.org this morning, because it fixed an important security related bug (see #364810). And boom... a few hours later, bug #365960 was filed. Of course, the backport is affected too. So, think twice before upgrading the firefox backport, I'm sure Eric Dorland and/or Mike Hommey (who are doing a great job maintaining a monster like firefox) are going to fix this in unstable soon. Update: 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.3-2 was uploaded to unstable, and the backport is already updated.

3 May 2006

Eric Dorland: A Life?

It's nearly 3am and I'm waiting for firefox 1.5.0.3 to finish building so I can upload it. This is what my life has come to. The strange thing is I like it.

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